a. I don't really want to see you in your underwear...So, wear you chausible over your stole, please.
b. I'm not a Latin Scholar (okay, maybe part time), but Dominus Vobiscum isn't the Lord IS with you, but the Lord BE WITH you.
c. Aren't you supposed to have TWO hands on the Host and Chalice?
d. Aren't you supposed to Genuflect when you open the Tabernacle?
In case you're wondering what caused this quick note. I saw all these things happen at Mass today.
01 July 2009
12 June 2009
5:00 pm Mass Our Lady of Guadalupe, La Habra
Talk about the world's most distracting Mass that was offered this afternoon...
Today was the graduation of the graduates from Our Lady of Guadalupe School. Mass had a procession of the Students into the Sanctuary....The typical introductory speech was at Mass by Fr. McCarthy.
The Liturgical Abuses were a laundry list here are some of them.
Today was the graduation of the graduates from Our Lady of Guadalupe School. Mass had a procession of the Students into the Sanctuary....The typical introductory speech was at Mass by Fr. McCarthy.
The Liturgical Abuses were a laundry list here are some of them.
- No altar linens on the altar at the beginning of Mass (these were later set up by some of the graduates from the school)
- Ab libs during the orate fratres, not mentioning Sacrifice.
- At the final doxology, the replacement of Him with Christ
- Not using an approved Canon (I did not recognize the Canon used as I-IV)
- The encouragement of hand holding across the isles at the Our Father
- Glass pitcher was used for the consecration of the Precious Blood
- EM's poured the Precious Blood AFTER the Consecration.
- EM's were distributing Communion once Father ran out of Hosts (As an ordinary Minister of Holy Communion, he is not supposed to take back seat)
- Ab lib of the Responsorial Psalm
- Guitars and amplifiers
- Father did NOT genuflect to either species.
09 June 2009
June 6th 09: 5:30pm Mass, St. Edward the Confessor Parish Dana Point, Ca.
The parish is very modern, yet there was nice crucifix, that kind of was liked stained glass, but not sure exactly how to describe it. Inspite of the sanctuary being lower than the nave, the Tabernacle was in the center of the Church. There was wood octogonal altar. Wall to wall carpeting with cousined pews. The back of the tabernacle had a glass opening. The congregation was fairly mixed old and young. Some came dressed in shorts. Many genuflected to the Tabernacle. The Mass was began by the books with a good afternoon squeezed in. Father wore gothic vestments, and there was processional hymn of There is a longing (which the congreation was COMPLETELY off key). Father bowed to the Tabernacle instead of genuflected. There was no kyrie recited. Father preached from the nave with broken english. He talked about the necessity of keeping the Faith in times of persecution. The prayers of the Faithful went in the order of the Missal, and were opened to the faithful. Father used a missal stand, and the glass cool aid pitcher was on the altar along with the chalice. The Sanctus was recited in Englsih. EP II was said without any ab libbing on the part of the Priest. At the Our Father, there was hand holding (one attempted to hold mine, I didn't move my hands) and the various lame hand gestures which seems to go on at virtually every parish. The Agnus Dei was sung in Latin though, and EM's were pouring the Precious Blood after the Consecration from the glass pitcher. There was a lady who received kneeling, most received in the hand, I was able to receive on the tongue with no problem (my knees were really sore, so I stood unlike normal (was from praying 15 decades of the Rosary)). The final blessing was done according to the books, and there was applause after Mass. A typical parish...
11 May 2009
St. Joseph's La Puente 8 am Spanish
This morning I went to the 8 am Spanish Mass, I'll keep it short and to the point. Mass was offered strictly by the rubrics. The people did the lame hand gestures that seems to be popular in America. Most people received on the tongue. EMHC's were kept at managable numbers...Yours truly wasn't denied for kneeling (Fr. Cumberland is a good priest, keep him in prayer). Chalice veil and burse were used. Gothic vestments were also used. Tabernacle is smack in the center. It was in Spanish, so I didn't take as many notes as I normally would. Basically low Mass.
4th Sunday after Easter: St. John the Baptist Costa Mesa, Ca
Coming into the parish you see beautiful 3 dimensional painting of Jesus being baptized by St. John the Baptist. Right below the picture is the Tabernacle in the center. On the left side was a crucifix (guessing the original giant crucifix that was in the center before remodeling) and Our Lady and the right was St. Joseph. There was a beautiful Sedilla set up ala monasticism. Confessions were being heard during the Mass.
High Mass was being offered by a Norbertine Father (the Norbertines run the parish)..The Processional Hymn was Hail Holy Queen enthroned above. I'm not used to there being opening hymn, at my parish we have instrumental.
The Kyrie was from the Missa de Penetentia and the Gloria from Missa de Angelis. The Epistle was from St. James 1, 17-21 and the Gospel was from St. John 16, 5-14.
There were announcements made before the readings in English and sermon.
Father noted in his sermon that the readings were leading us from the Resurrection to Ascension to Decent of the Holy Spirit. He also reminded us that we received the Holy Spirit at baptism. Also that we should prepare for Mass by not rushing, reading the readings, do intentions, and pray the rosary.
Credo III was used and the Congregation was incensed first (though that's not how it's written in the Missal, the Mass had to be done before 2 since there was a Spanish Mass right after). The Roman tone for chant was being used. The Sanctus was from the Missa de Angelis.
The acoustics at the parish were ridiculously good, so much that I heard Father's sotto voce voice. The Agnus Dei was also from the Missa de Angelis. The Domine non sum Dignus prayer was said aloud by the congregation. Another priest came to assist with Communion.
The recessional hymn was Let Holy Anthem risen.
Overall Mass was beautiful, but I must say, we're better here in Alhambra ;)
High Mass was being offered by a Norbertine Father (the Norbertines run the parish)..The Processional Hymn was Hail Holy Queen enthroned above. I'm not used to there being opening hymn, at my parish we have instrumental.
The Kyrie was from the Missa de Penetentia and the Gloria from Missa de Angelis. The Epistle was from St. James 1, 17-21 and the Gospel was from St. John 16, 5-14.
There were announcements made before the readings in English and sermon.
Father noted in his sermon that the readings were leading us from the Resurrection to Ascension to Decent of the Holy Spirit. He also reminded us that we received the Holy Spirit at baptism. Also that we should prepare for Mass by not rushing, reading the readings, do intentions, and pray the rosary.
Credo III was used and the Congregation was incensed first (though that's not how it's written in the Missal, the Mass had to be done before 2 since there was a Spanish Mass right after). The Roman tone for chant was being used. The Sanctus was from the Missa de Angelis.
The acoustics at the parish were ridiculously good, so much that I heard Father's sotto voce voice. The Agnus Dei was also from the Missa de Angelis. The Domine non sum Dignus prayer was said aloud by the congregation. Another priest came to assist with Communion.
The recessional hymn was Let Holy Anthem risen.
Overall Mass was beautiful, but I must say, we're better here in Alhambra ;)
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28 April 2009
04-26-09: 2pm EF: San Juan Bautista, Diocese of Monterey
My travels brought me to Mission San Juan Bautista for the EF Mass at 2pm. I was at Gregorian Chant workshop as mentioned at the Diocese of Monterey TLM blog.
Here's picture of the Reredo at San Juan Bautista
Various Saints are on the Reredo. There were 8 Candles lit in the extravagant Spanish Baroque style.
In a rareity now and days, the Tabernacle was veiled as shown above. You'd see side altars to the Sacred Heart, Infant of Prague, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Divine Savior, and the wooden altar rail is in tact.
Last Sunday was the 2nd Sunday after Easter and gold vestments were used. There were 6 altar boys along with 2 MC's. The vast majority mantillaed. It really felt like the 1700's at the Mission. The schola (which I was apart of) sang Kyrie and Gloria I as well as Agnus Dei I. The propers were sung.
During Fr. Milich's Sermon he talked about the importance of listening to the Voce of God and in all forms, words, musics, we encounter voice of od. The sung Mass was apart of anxient tradition that came organically from the early Church inspite of martyrdom and is beyond the culture. Mass must be on God's time. We have choice whether to respond or not to the voice of God. One voice and one shepard.
Credo III was done. The Mass went strictly by the rubrics of the strictest interpretation (i.e. 2nd Confietor was done). The incensor was at the side and not directly behind Father (this was probably due to the reredo). NO EM's. Also no opening and closing Hymn.
One spot of solice in Northern California :)
Here's picture of the Reredo at San Juan Bautista
In a rareity now and days, the Tabernacle was veiled as shown above. You'd see side altars to the Sacred Heart, Infant of Prague, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Divine Savior, and the wooden altar rail is in tact.
Last Sunday was the 2nd Sunday after Easter and gold vestments were used. There were 6 altar boys along with 2 MC's. The vast majority mantillaed. It really felt like the 1700's at the Mission. The schola (which I was apart of) sang Kyrie and Gloria I as well as Agnus Dei I. The propers were sung.
During Fr. Milich's Sermon he talked about the importance of listening to the Voce of God and in all forms, words, musics, we encounter voice of od. The sung Mass was apart of anxient tradition that came organically from the early Church inspite of martyrdom and is beyond the culture. Mass must be on God's time. We have choice whether to respond or not to the voice of God. One voice and one shepard.
Credo III was done. The Mass went strictly by the rubrics of the strictest interpretation (i.e. 2nd Confietor was done). The incensor was at the side and not directly behind Father (this was probably due to the reredo). NO EM's. Also no opening and closing Hymn.
One spot of solice in Northern California :)
12 April 2009
12 Noon: St. Lorenzo: 1 hour and a half in hell, Happy Easter,
Due to the fact that I had no car for the weekend, I was unable to drive out to liturgical safety at my regular parish (St. Therese), so I offered up the Mass I was going to attend at St. Lorenzo's Roman Protestant Community.
It's Easter so of course everyone and their neighbor remembers to be Catholic today. What does that imply? Tons of talking before the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I mean TONS OF TALKING BY EVERYONE. I literally could NOT pray before the Mass began, even when I attempted to. The Tabernacle is covered by the curtain, and there are little song screens just like at a Protestant church. Three altar girls were dressed in alb and cincture.
Before the Mass we had to greet our neighbors next to us (I did not participate in such, I remained kneeling in prayer), yet people said hi to me, did I mention how big of an annoyance that is?
So comes time for the procession with everyone and their neighbor basically in the procession. At this parish, the Extrordinary Mobsters of Holy Communion and Lectors all participate in the procession. Fr. Tony was at the end of the procession. There was no crucifix present in the Sanctuary just a bare Cross and the processional Crucifix was in the Ressurectrix style. The processional hymn was Jesus Christ is risen today. Then the Mass began.
There was an ab lib in the greeting an addition of the word "may" to (The Lord be with you). The choir's location was ridiculously distracting as they're located right behind the altar. Penetential rite A was used and the Kyrie was sung in English. Then comes the Gloria with TAMBOURINES!! (That's right, that little kid insturment!), MARACAS AND A SYNTHESIZER (besides for being illegal, that's just ugh). There was clapping during the Gloria and bells were rung. There was also piano jazz accompanyment (and an ab libbed gloria at that). Then the collect was prayed according to the books.
The first reading was from Acts 10, 34. 37-43, the responsorial psalm was Ps 118, 1-2. 16-17. 22-23 and the 2nd reading was from 1 Cor 5, 6-8. The greeting before the Gospel was again ab libbed by the priest by adding "may". Then the Gospel was read.
Fr. Tony then wished all of us good afternoon during the Homily. He talked about bieng pastor of community. Then DURING THE HOMILY, he told EVERYONE TO GET UP AND WISH EACH OTHER A HAPPY EASTER, (as if the greet your neighbor before Mass wasn't good enough). There was applause during the homily. He also asked a family to stand up to point out they were suffering with a mothers' death (yeah it sucks, I know, been there, but why during Mass?). Absolutely nothing mentioned about the resurrection!
For the Credo we renewed our Baptismal promises (it's a legit option...). There was some ab lib commentary, and while the priest was sprinkling Holy water on us, the choir was playing the Song "Come to the water" (Can anyone say, what happened to the vidi aquam?)
As for the Prayers of the Faithless they were lame and anthro centered as is usual at this parish. The offertory hymn was "Worthy is the Lamb" (Which probably had zero to do with the offertory verse for the day). During this time there were kids running around in the Sanctuary.
(At least this time, there weren't people holding the soon to be host with the priest)
There was an ab lib orate fratres. There was also ab lib in the preface by adding "may"
The Sanctus was sung in some Trilingual what the heck am I listening too, have no idea what it says. The Sanctus was also ab libbed by the choir.
EP II was used. Fr. Tony BROKE THE HOST DURING THE CONSECRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. There was a completely illicit form of the Memorial Acclamation being used. The Spanish that was used was Christo ha muerto which is not approved in the Spanish books (as a matter of fact the Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again is only in the englsih text). There was an Ab lib a couple of times during the Canon. Then for the "great Amen" there was also an ab lib "we sing amen" (cantamos Amen).
There was an ab lib in the introduction to the Our Father which was recited in English. The altar girls were in the sanctuary holding Fr. Tony's hands during the Our Father. The Sign of Peace went on forever (as if greeting your neighbor twice wasn't good enough). During this time extraordinary mobsters of Holy Communion were pouring the Most Precious Blood of Jesus. There was an ab lib for the Ecce Agnus Dei. Come Communion time, most received in the hand. There were no patens as called for by Redemptionis Sacramentum. I was not denied Communion for kneeling. For Communion, Some song called katawan de Christo was playing (heretical song). Extraordinary Mobsters were purifying the vessels after, and going to the Tabernacle.
After the post Communion prayer. Father asked us to sit, where he proceeded to thank everyone and their neighbor, including a slight mocking of my priest friend (probably not intentional) (UPDATE: It was). There was also clapping during this time as well.
The Final blessing was also ab libbed. The Recessional hymn was called the Strife is over (which also makes no sense).
An hour and a half in Liturgical Hell....I'm reminded why I go to St. Therese as my home parish now. Things are not Catholic over here at this parish, I beg of you to pray for this parish as I do. Things are worse than I even imagined...
It's Easter so of course everyone and their neighbor remembers to be Catholic today. What does that imply? Tons of talking before the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I mean TONS OF TALKING BY EVERYONE. I literally could NOT pray before the Mass began, even when I attempted to. The Tabernacle is covered by the curtain, and there are little song screens just like at a Protestant church. Three altar girls were dressed in alb and cincture.
Before the Mass we had to greet our neighbors next to us (I did not participate in such, I remained kneeling in prayer), yet people said hi to me, did I mention how big of an annoyance that is?
So comes time for the procession with everyone and their neighbor basically in the procession. At this parish, the Extrordinary Mobsters of Holy Communion and Lectors all participate in the procession. Fr. Tony was at the end of the procession. There was no crucifix present in the Sanctuary just a bare Cross and the processional Crucifix was in the Ressurectrix style. The processional hymn was Jesus Christ is risen today. Then the Mass began.
There was an ab lib in the greeting an addition of the word "may" to (The Lord be with you). The choir's location was ridiculously distracting as they're located right behind the altar. Penetential rite A was used and the Kyrie was sung in English. Then comes the Gloria with TAMBOURINES!! (That's right, that little kid insturment!), MARACAS AND A SYNTHESIZER (besides for being illegal, that's just ugh). There was clapping during the Gloria and bells were rung. There was also piano jazz accompanyment (and an ab libbed gloria at that). Then the collect was prayed according to the books.
The first reading was from Acts 10, 34. 37-43, the responsorial psalm was Ps 118, 1-2. 16-17. 22-23 and the 2nd reading was from 1 Cor 5, 6-8. The greeting before the Gospel was again ab libbed by the priest by adding "may". Then the Gospel was read.
Fr. Tony then wished all of us good afternoon during the Homily. He talked about bieng pastor of community. Then DURING THE HOMILY, he told EVERYONE TO GET UP AND WISH EACH OTHER A HAPPY EASTER, (as if the greet your neighbor before Mass wasn't good enough). There was applause during the homily. He also asked a family to stand up to point out they were suffering with a mothers' death (yeah it sucks, I know, been there, but why during Mass?). Absolutely nothing mentioned about the resurrection!
For the Credo we renewed our Baptismal promises (it's a legit option...). There was some ab lib commentary, and while the priest was sprinkling Holy water on us, the choir was playing the Song "Come to the water" (Can anyone say, what happened to the vidi aquam?)
As for the Prayers of the Faithless they were lame and anthro centered as is usual at this parish. The offertory hymn was "Worthy is the Lamb" (Which probably had zero to do with the offertory verse for the day). During this time there were kids running around in the Sanctuary.
(At least this time, there weren't people holding the soon to be host with the priest)
There was an ab lib orate fratres. There was also ab lib in the preface by adding "may"
The Sanctus was sung in some Trilingual what the heck am I listening too, have no idea what it says. The Sanctus was also ab libbed by the choir.
EP II was used. Fr. Tony BROKE THE HOST DURING THE CONSECRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. There was a completely illicit form of the Memorial Acclamation being used. The Spanish that was used was Christo ha muerto which is not approved in the Spanish books (as a matter of fact the Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again is only in the englsih text). There was an Ab lib a couple of times during the Canon. Then for the "great Amen" there was also an ab lib "we sing amen" (cantamos Amen).
There was an ab lib in the introduction to the Our Father which was recited in English. The altar girls were in the sanctuary holding Fr. Tony's hands during the Our Father. The Sign of Peace went on forever (as if greeting your neighbor twice wasn't good enough). During this time extraordinary mobsters of Holy Communion were pouring the Most Precious Blood of Jesus. There was an ab lib for the Ecce Agnus Dei. Come Communion time, most received in the hand. There were no patens as called for by Redemptionis Sacramentum. I was not denied Communion for kneeling. For Communion, Some song called katawan de Christo was playing (heretical song). Extraordinary Mobsters were purifying the vessels after, and going to the Tabernacle.
After the post Communion prayer. Father asked us to sit, where he proceeded to thank everyone and their neighbor, including a slight mocking of my priest friend (probably not intentional) (UPDATE: It was). There was also clapping during this time as well.
The Final blessing was also ab libbed. The Recessional hymn was called the Strife is over (which also makes no sense).
An hour and a half in Liturgical Hell....I'm reminded why I go to St. Therese as my home parish now. Things are not Catholic over here at this parish, I beg of you to pray for this parish as I do. Things are worse than I even imagined...
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